From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: groupware question Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ad8ibtb5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065191854 16053 80.91.224.253 (3 Oct 2003 14:37:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 03 16:37:32 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5R3k-0003O2-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:37:32 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5R3j-0002Fa-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:37:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5R0S-0003wo-SY for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5R0O-0003wd-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Qzr-0003kP-BU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Qzq-0003ix-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 3 Oct 2003 14:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" In-reply-to: <87ad8ibtb5.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16902 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16902 Robert> (I would love someone to take the code in, say, tramp and Robert> enable connections to character-only terminals .... If you understand the security implications and can live with them, wouldn't enabling TCP/IP with emacsclient do what you want? (Using emacsclient on a local terminal would only annoy the remote X user, of course!) I never thought of that! Thank you. Unfortunately, I cannot figure out what to do. I just tried and failed. :-( What do I do? Here is the situation: I have a non-root account, bob, on two machines, 123.456.789.123 [that remote machine has no name] and on megalith.rattlesnake.com [my machine]. I am running X on my machine. I connect to the remote machine twice using ssh over a slow telephone connection. So now I have two xterms connected to 123.456.789.123. On one remote connection I start `emacs -nw -f server-start'. That is fine. On the other remote connection, I start `emacsclient foo'. That starts an Emacs window in the xterm showing first remote connection, the one where I started `emacs -nw -f server-start'. How do I get it to show the file in the xterm showing the other remote connection? I've done cooperative editing this way, by the way, and discovered that I really don't want to work that way with the person I tried it with. He kept making typos, and correcting my indentation style. Unforgivable! ;-) I feared this sort of thing can be a problem. But I have enjoyed good, cooperative work with people, so I think it depends on the person and the situation. We found a second Emacs window on a temp buffer for chat (or it could visit a log file) was useful. Yes, this makes good sense. I would think in terms of one frame, which may be in an Xterm, for chat (using a non-X equivalent of `talk-connect') and another for work. We also found that it was hard (in XEmacs, GNU Emacs might do better) to keep the window-frame mapping consistent across frames ... Hmmm.... that could be a problem I had not thought of. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com