From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281737.h8SHbXJ11309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064784918 9369 80.91.224.253 (28 Sep 2003 21:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 28 23:35:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3jCG-0000kF-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:35:16 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3jCG-00081T-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:35:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jBJ-0000YQ-V7 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jB9-0000WA-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jB7-0000Tr-6S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.114.245] (helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jB6-0000TJ-5h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200309281737.h8SHbXJ11309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:33 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16737 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16737 I wrote: I would like to change the colors both of the foreground (the `thumb') and the background (the `trough') of the scroll bars. Luc Teirlinck responded: Your question concerned GTK. Jan answered it. No, he did not. I made a great many attempts and failed. There is a bug both in the `customize-face' function and a bug in the documentation. We know that we can do it easily for the native scroll bar. But this is specifically for the GTK scroll bar. As I said, it is worth testing these other scroll bars and writing accurate rather than misleading or wrong documentation for them. As a tester, please run a non-default Emacs for a while. It is useful for everyone. Apparently, it [I think you are referring to the native scroll bar, not the GTK scroll bar] completely ignores the :foreground attribute, only :background matters. I don't know about this; if so, it is another bug to be fixed, because, as you say ... some people may have trouble seeing the thumb if it has the same color as the trough. .... You go on to say I do not know what happens with LessTif/Motif. Neither do I. Someone else needs test it. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com