From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etc/TODO:Horizontal scrollbar Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030702122939.EE3627154B@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> <20030704043340.99B55715D9@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057326080 14273 80.91.224.249 (4 Jul 2003 13:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 13:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 04 15:41:18 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19YQoQ-0003i3-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 15:41:18 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19YQwq-0008Uv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 15:50:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19YQlc-0008CG-5M for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:38:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19YQl1-0007px-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19YQjy-0007OE-NO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19YQj6-0006zB-Lf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Jul 2003 09:35:49 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: "Dhruva Krishnamurthy" In-reply-to: <20030704043340.99B55715D9@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> (seagull@fastmail.fm) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15373 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15373 .... It looks like the minibuffer is sandwiched between the modeline and the horizontal scroll-bar. This is only if you use one window at a time, rather than two or more. As is, the statement does not make sense. Are you trying to say that .... It looks like the minibuffer is below the horizontal scroll-bar and modeline. ? Moreover, a mode line separates two windows. It indicates the bottom of the window above it. The minibuffer is not relevant. Putting the horizontal scroll-bar below a mode line means putting it in the `other buffer', the one that is displayed in the window below the mode line. The horizontal scroll-bar should go above the mode-line, either next to it or at the other end (the `top' end) of the window. In any event, just as you can set the value of vertical-scroll-bar to left, right, nil, or t, so you should be able to set the value of horizontal-scroll-bar to top, bottom, nil, or t. (Presumably, you will also need a variable for the `bottom' case in a windowing display, to specify whether the scroll bar is separate from the mode line, or is part of the mode line, perhaps shown as I suggested.) ... Just imagine when you type a long line in the modeline, the horizontal scroll-bar's THUMB is moving/scrolling. It is quite distracting. I do not understand you. When I type many vertical lines, I don't find it distracting for the vertical scroll-bar's slider or thumb to move; indeed, I hardly notice it, but when I want to see it, it is there and I want it to move or have moved. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com