From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: etc/TODO:Horizontal scrollbar
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:12:50 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m19XiLq-000IeIC@rattlesnake.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030702122939.EE3627154B@smtp.us2.messagingengine.com> (seagull@fastmail.fm)
1. I got a horizontal scrollbar ...
It really did not look nice to me. ... Could we use the modeline
as a scrollbar instead of coming up with a real horizontal scroll
bar?
This is great! We have needed a horizontal scrollbar for a long time.
If you use the modeline, please leave it mostly as is, since it is
useful.
On a bitmapped display, you could indicate the part of the window that
is visible by indenting or exdenting the modeline a little bit, like
this, where the indented portion is visible in the window:
_________ ______
\________/
--:-- *mail*
_________
_________/ \_____
(A decade or more ago, I suggested that you could mark segments of a
text, such as the beginning of a chapter in Texinfo, or a major part
difference in a source library by using indentation, or another type
of mark, on a vertical scroll bar. This would be in addition to the
current `thumb' that marks the text visible in the window. I have
often thought that like the current `thumb', such an indicator would
be a useful and unobstrusive help. But I don't know enough to do this
myself.)
On a character-only display, you will need a separate mode line,
since you cannot manipulate bits.
In that case, the display might look like this, where the portion
marked by uppercase letters is visible in the window:
xxxxxxxxxXXXXXXXXXXxxxxx
----:---F1 *mail*
I don't know how to mark a horizontal scroll bar for people who listen
rather than look (the permanently and the situationally blind). How
do eyes-free people handle the current vertical scroll bar; do they
turn it off?
Now all we need is to be able to address a display as
`remote.machine.com:pts/7' or `remote.machine.com:tty4' as well as
`remote.machine.com:1.0' and Emacs will become a very nice program for
group work over slow connections.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-02 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-02 12:29 etc/TODO:Horizontal scrollbar Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2003-07-02 14:12 ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2003-07-03 15:48 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-04 4:33 ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2003-07-04 13:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-07-04 15:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-04 22:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-05 22:26 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-05 23:05 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-05 22:25 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-03 0:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-03 11:51 ` Frank Schmitt
2003-07-03 14:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-04 22:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-04 21:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 18:53 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-07 0:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-07 2:01 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-07 11:45 ` Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2003-07-08 20:01 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-07 3:03 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-03 15:48 ` Richard Stallman
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