From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Files in wrong subdirs of emacs/lisp? Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 08:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030520130413.8A2E.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <20030521101542.4DB2.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053520586 8322 80.91.224.249 (21 May 2003 12:36:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 21 14:36:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ISp9-00028u-00 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:36:03 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19ISzv-00075u-00 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 14:47:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ISo2-0001dy-4g for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ISnj-0001dC-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19ISnD-0001O5-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19ISnC-0001Mz-BM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 May 2003 08:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Wed, 21 May 2003 08:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <20030521101542.4DB2.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> (message from Juanma Barranquero on Wed, 21 May 2003 10:22:48 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14037 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14037 But it does seem hard to imagine that current Emacs runs in non-floating point-supporting machines, isn't it? (vide lisp/float-sup.el) Why is it so hard to imagine? My understanding is that some of the currently popular small devices do not support floating point. I do not know for sure, but if true, then potentially, millions of people could use such an Emacs. (These small machines do not have much capacity, so I imagine that developers would include just those parts of Emacs that they need. At one point, I reduced the Emacs 18 footprint to 300 kilobytes for a version that did what *I* mostly used. So I know that Emacs can be made small, and still be useable. (I do not know the current minimal footprint for version 21, but likely it is below the 1.8 megabytes total memory on the Atari ST that Diane Barlow Close used for writing a good bit of GNU documentation. As far as I know, the current small machines generally have more than 2 megabytes of memory, so they should have the physical capability to run a small machine Emacs.) -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com