From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048890697 29664 80.91.224.249 (28 Mar 2003 22:31:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:31:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 23:31:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18z2Nn-0007iA-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:31:31 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18z2QM-00017r-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:34:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18z2Ng-0004HI-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:31:24 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18z2N2-00043g-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:30:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18z2In-0001mE-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:26:23 -0500 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18z2IA-0001ju-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:25:42 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12723 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12723 I don't claim that one view is better than the other ... I just tried to move the bottom line of an article shown in the Mozilla web browser up so I could see it better, and I could not. User interfaces using that design are broken. On the other hand, in GNU Emacs W3M mode I was able to view the site comfortably, using either an instance of Emacs built with `--with-x-toolkit=gtk' or one without, a LUCID toolkit. (The GTK instance has the scroll bar/thumb showing more text than actually exists in the buffer; but it does handle the other parts of the interface OK.) -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com