From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <200303281338.h2SDcKGe000349@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048869000 396 80.91.224.249 (28 Mar 2003 16:30:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 17:29:58 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18ywju-000068-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:29:58 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18ywmM-00063j-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:32:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ywh5-0002e5-07 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:27:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ywf8-00024z-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ywc7-0000fW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:21:56 -0500 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=rattlesnake.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18ywb0-0000Lv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <200303281338.h2SDcKGe000349@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12711 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12711 Thumb behavior depends on which toolkit you use. Today's CVS snapshot, Fri, 2003 Mar 28 14:53 UTC GNU Emacs 21.3.50.253 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) "Stefan Monnier" wrote: > This means that in a short buffer, such as the initial > *Messages* buffer in a plain Emacs 21.3 started with > > emacs -q --no-site-file --eval '(blink-cursor-mode 0)' > > the thumb does *not* show it is displaying `all' of the > buffer, but shows the post-end-of-buffer empty lines too. > .... > I prefer the Emacs 20.7 way ... It's also the 21.3 behavior, except in Motif. That is true for 21.3 configured like this: gcc=gcc-3.2 ./configure --with-type1 --prefix=/usr/local --with-sound=yes (i.e., with a LUCID tool kit), but it is *not* true for 21.3 configured with --with-x-toolkit=gtk So it is not only that .... The behavior of the scrollbar in the presence of large chunks of invisible text is definitely less than perfect. as you said, but it depends on the toolkit. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com