From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:39:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4C37108C.3040207@siege-engine.com> <87y6dkoncz.fsf@aott.dev.webwasher.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278689974 6560 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2010 15:39:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:39:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 17:39:34 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXFfn-0000Nv-HZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:39:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51679 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXFfl-0002Ln-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:39:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37355 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXFff-0002L7-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:39:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXFfb-0003xJ-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54733) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXFfb-0003wm-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:39:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXFfZ-0000Fh-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:39:17 +0200 Original-Received: from cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com ([86.9.122.85]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:39:17 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:39:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc1-cmbg13-0-0-cust596.cmbg.cable.ntl.com Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAMFBMVEUaFRZLMy1dTENxVzKQ WiCrXQ97cmO/dSqSh3akjGTApXy5sJ7Sxo/Sz8Xo6eP9//xJbkruAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlw SFlzAAACxQAAAsUBidZ/7wAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMJOwHXewoAAAIBSURBVCjPVdNBiNNAFADQ6J4F x3hThHZBBC+WCFI8SS0iezRDcMHLHkLAg6gJH/fgYQ9xYlj2sLK4KHgqCgXFhda2Idmr4kkQPZQ0 nkQMbTypbMmMM2m7ZgYSmMef/5OZPwo7HFnx3uKPcmj0Dht1LWZJ+Hvr7dIFZXRUwl9VRTuuKDJ+ U44gjscknK4hhJaCkYRsWjmBtLqXlJAG2wipNe18OZJu1BBq1E8xafl4s6Jq2mUZGftU1y7CCxnp FVUDWJXx4C66BKBnErbuoaYNtoRTu6EZBsCbMn7W+5qOAR6WvxNOby9jHWC9hAf3n304CdiAByXs 3Nh9roLDkyb/sWV712vYwaLSAn8CPMHIAAzOPDKP2COAFm4Y4ODVWc6xG7KXsN7UeUJjjimx2uwd gCgNhr0i8C/xyCD5CiCKAMY3Bf5oDzx//w/fimscdcAZU2jv9sedx6+nYPPFIoWI/GK6QZ+EFGOR ErAjCnV3vPZ7XqlTIMbOLY7fLcvvmT7rXNWaGDexIY44N12TG2PDp7vqyl57dnCeuWwyNpnEURxk fTbDYeBnKRn4oejPYI4sH6WviBumEZ/GxX4X/x6EcURFZ7E071bjQGAxpcOAEOJuTiroDEea5Szv rVWLYfl7ZiQwSUToxrkux7OLixAWGz22+HIyWTRYcVfomOwvzusfjtVIGgLHf3MAAAAASUVORK5C YII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (Mac OS X 10.6.4) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HwIh+RDcxQlQptmHRDREJgsWxuA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126955 Archived-At: On 2010-07-09 13:23 +0100, Alex Ott wrote: > The biggest problem with CEDET is speed, and complexity of > installation/configuration for projects - this is most often called > problem, that I got as response for my articles and blog posts I am dying to see Emacs having a general-purpose powerful lisp as its foundation to build things upon. Leo -- Any Emacs contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of Common Lisp.