From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mykie.el Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:29:56 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87bnzshlo5.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87eh4myhlc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388917818 9654 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2014 10:30:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 10:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mitchel Humpherys Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 05 11:30:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzkyM-0008Oj-GW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 11:30:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzkyM-0006JZ-3h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 05:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzkyB-0006JQ-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 05:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzky2-0006hM-Rg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 05:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]:44547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzky2-0006eZ-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 05:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jt11so17449664pbb.28 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 02:30:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=3uzDukrngkvLOY7C3Hy0OThivaMNWrp+ZOhbKMyh8U4=; b=g47boNqnEgi652lE0dg5MInssum5LBv1RSf3AbL+K81F4T+c6H7CnMNfyhCY/SuRM8 Tb1a44Ba48eCy0Zdql3/0zxz/aK7dM5cEi1XjLUTzZGrG2OWKBumfMLyn7pcY9TWYkd9 VoF8AOuKQ5c0qXTZbBzTJ6vKdlGDvfn9DP2D6I2TVTXUcUdFYLlfJyrHV1WuKYaXM+0K fy7afIei4hhVQaIbCRPDJg08aYw41V8A7NtsbIYVgHuzqmhzjRXngyxY4ONThsT1tfk/ bk0gGijsOFY5MMGPOlYrR8KZyR5LveL3t85f3QaPRHQvWhmBSh0Cv+FTpsPLGxVO6+Qe Eq6g== X-Received: by 10.69.31.170 with SMTP id kn10mr112208766pbd.106.1388917801437; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 02:30:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([221.220.128.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id id1sm55598325pbc.11.2014.01.05.02.29.58 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 02:30:00 -0800 (PST) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <87eh4myhlc.fsf@gmail.com> (Mitchel Humpherys's message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2014 00:10:23 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.9.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167356 Archived-At: On 2014-01-05 16:10 +0800, Mitchel Humpherys wrote: > Define "better". It's cool that yours is just vanilla Elisp but it took > me about 5 seconds to fully parse the mykie version and about 20 seconds > to fully parse your version. For me it is the other way around. The elisp syntax flows so smoothly and gives me a sense of beauty and reassurance... Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against mykie. It is perfectly fine to introduce some syntax helper for writing the staff you want to write. But this doesn't need to be in emacs core. Leo