From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.psgml.devel,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Re: Key sequence C-c C-f C-e uses invalid prefix characters Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Sender: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: References: <3DFE4E98.1080204@silmaril.ie> <3DFFC29E.4060100@silmaril.ie> <20030112040605.GA26128@gnu.org> <3E217BDD.6030403@silmaril.ie> Reply-To: bob@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042388722 7552 80.91.224.249 (12 Jan 2003 16:25:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18XkvI-0001xg-00 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:25:20 +0100 Original-Received: from lists.sourceforge.net ([66.35.250.206] helo=sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18Xl2M-0004Vb-00 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:32:38 +0100 Original-Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13] helo=sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18Xkw5-0002R5-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:26:09 -0800 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 18Xkve-00055x-00 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:25:43 -0800 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: <3E217BDD.6030403@silmaril.ie> (message from Peter Flynn on Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:29:49 +0000) Errors-To: psgml-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: psgml-devel@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.psgml.devel:98 gmane.emacs.devel:10697 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10697 Peter Flynn wrote: ... or the DTD is lost in the mists of time, then the simple solution is to create one. There are programs to do this -- have been for years -- and I even documented one in my 1998 book on SGML/XML tools, called Fred (from OCLC). There are now many more for XML as well. Yes, and when you include such a program written in Emacs Lisp in Psgml mode, then you are providing another tool to handle `graceful degredation'. Please understand, no one wants to provide a broken file to someone else; that is not what the discussion is about. As a user of Emacs, I have received broken or corrupted files from other people and had to fix them. GNU Emacs has made this action easier than it would be otherwise. The issue is whether or not to continue to provide at least some tools for handling corrupt or broken SGML or XML files that you receive. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@gnu.org ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com