From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xu1ilsbuu.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037212477 17149 80.91.224.249 (13 Nov 2002 18:34:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18C2LT-0004SP-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:34:35 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18C2XU-00035d-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:47:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18C2Ma-00074n-00; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:35:44 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18C2B9-00048R-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18C2B2-000474-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:54 -0500 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18C2B1-00046y-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:48 -0500 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-reply-to: <5xu1ilsbuu.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> (storm@cua.dk) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9396 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9396 > The problem is not with experts, but with people just learning. Maybe we could have a "tree-state" customize option here: - always show tooltips (generate a tooltip with the same text as the menu item if no explicit tooltip is specified) - show available tooltips (the current functionality - show tooltips is available) - no tooltips (never show tooltips for menu items). We definately should provide an option to turn tooltips on or off, but no more. Otherwise, I fear that no one will fill in the empty tooltips; and tooltips with the same text as the menu item are terrible, as Miles also said. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc bob@rattlesnake.com