From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: User-reserved element in byte code vectors
Date: 02 May 2004 17:07:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17jvu5z9g.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85d65m8tgl.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>
>> I thought you already had it implemented.
> I'm using another way which I sketched in a message a few days ago.
OK, so I understood it right. My argument is that my way is better than
your current way.
In your current way (at least what I can tell from your sketch), calling
a closure involves really two function calls (you first call the wrapper
which then calls the bytecode with the extra environment argument, which is
the massaging I was talking about).
Constructing a closure in your scheme involves creating the wrapper which
boils down to constructing one new byte-compiled-object as well as one new
"constants" vector which holds the static environment, the real
byte-compiled code and maybe one or two more constants.
I.e. one byte-compiled-object and one vector.
I.e. the downside of my approach (constructing one byte-compiled-object
plus one constants vector) doesn't seem nearly as bad when seen in
this light. Admittedly my constants vector will generally be larger so
your closure-construction is still usually more efficient, but
only profiling can tell if the difference is significant.
>> Well, there are two questions:
>> - how best to implement closures, given the current Emacs C code.
>> - how best to implement closures, assuming we get to change the C code.
>> I'm talking about the first question. Miles's work is within the context
>> of the second.
> I'm interested in both.
I'm also interested in both, but we can't say "answer 1 to question 1 sucks
because answer 2 to question 2 is better".
To get back to the original question, I now don't see how you can usefully
put the static environment in slot 7 without making changes to the C code,
so there's no point deciding it's reserved for use by elisp packages.
As for the rest of the meta-data you might want to put in
byte-compiled-objects, maybe we should dedicate one of the slots (maybe the
7th or 8th) for an alist where people can put whatever they want.
Stefan
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[not found] ` <E1BI6nw-0005F4-Hl@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <85smepfzqo.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>
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2004-04-28 10:43 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors (was: Emacs Common Lisp) Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 15:08 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 16:51 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 7:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 9:43 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-02 16:02 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 14:03 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 19:57 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-05 5:23 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-05 20:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 3:55 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-06 4:56 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-06 11:48 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 17:53 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:50 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-14 22:03 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14 22:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-15 18:34 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-15 23:10 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 11:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 11:28 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-17 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 22:06 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 22:33 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-18 1:29 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 13:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-18 23:45 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19 6:28 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-19 6:37 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19 19:00 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-19 22:32 ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030520-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-19 7:34 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Kim F. Storm
2004-05-19 13:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-19 14:28 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-20 0:31 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-20 13:17 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-21 1:28 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-22 7:31 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-22 9:37 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18 17:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-16 23:53 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <E1BP3ym-0007oy-F7@fencepost.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20040515231754.GB20052@fencepost>
2004-05-16 4:02 ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-16 12:28 ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-1-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-16 23:58 ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-0-c.patch Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 0:03 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 0:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 0:30 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 22:21 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 11:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 11:04 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 22:54 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:54 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18 6:04 ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030518-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-06 6:17 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-06 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 20:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-02 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 18:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 19:27 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 20:28 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 21:07 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2004-05-03 6:08 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 15:38 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors (was: Emacs Common Lisp) Miles Bader
2004-05-01 5:30 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-01 23:58 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 7:01 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-01 18:53 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 14:44 ` get-internal-run-time Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-02 15:45 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 18:41 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 0:10 ` get-internal-run-time Kevin Ryde
2004-05-03 5:38 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 14:03 ` get-internal-run-time Richard Stallman
2004-10-28 16:30 ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
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