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From: Eshel Yaron <me@eshelyaron.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: dict
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 20:56:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17cteycp1.fsf@eshelyaron.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ednnvtt6.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Thu,  11 May 2023 14:14:45 +0000")

Eli, Philip, thanks for looking into it.

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> From: Eshel Yaron <me@eshelyaron.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 16:22:06 +0300
>>> 
>>> The main motivation behind this package was to resolve some usability issues
>>> that I came across with dictionary.el.  Namely, I'm not satisfied with the fact
>>> that dictionary.el unconditionally switches to the *Dictionary* buffer when
>>> displaying a definition, and I don't appreciate how it tries to remember my
>>> previous windows configuration and revert back to it when I close the
>>> *Dictionary* buffer with the q key.  Of course, I'm open to the possibility of
>>> modifying dictionary.el instead of adding this separate package GNU ELPA if
>>> anyone thinks that's preferable, but I also think it would be nice to let people
>>> try out Dict and get some feedback beforehand.
>>
>> I think if we could augment dictionary.el so as to satisfy your needs,
>> perhaps as some kind of minor mode or user option, that would be
>> better than having an entirely separate package.

Alright, I can give augmenting dictionary.el a shot.  The way I see it,
this has the downside that it'll only be available in Emacs 30, and I'm
not sure how elegant that's gonna be, but I guess I can put a patch
together for emacs.git and then reassess.
>
> I don't think that is possible, Eshel writes on his website:
>
>    Dict’s differentiation comes from its simplicity and
>    extensibility–while dictionary.el defines a bespoke major mode and
>    interface for browsing word definitions, Dict leverages Emacs’s Help
>    mode by default, and let’s you extend and control every aspect of its
>    behavior via customization options.
>
>    dict.el is also shorter than dictionary.el–just under 300 lines of
>    code!
>
> This is a ERC vs rcirc like situation.

I'm afraid I haven't used ERC enough to understand this comparison, does
it imply that you think it'll be hard to keep Dict's simplicity intact
upon incorporating it with dictionary.el?


-- 
Best,

Eshel



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11 13:22 [ELPA] New package: dict Eshel Yaron
2023-05-11 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11 14:14   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11 17:56     ` Eshel Yaron [this message]
2023-05-11 18:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-11 18:29       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-12 13:17         ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-12 13:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-14  6:41             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-14  9:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-15 18:50                 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18  7:57                   ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18  8:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-18 10:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-18 12:21                     ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18 14:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-18 15:51                         ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18 15:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-19  8:34                             ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-20 14:19                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-20 16:49                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-20 18:27                                 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-20 19:11                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-21  6:52                                     ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-25  9:52                                       ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-25 19:10                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-26  9:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-26 11:36                                         ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-05-26 12:26                                           ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18 12:59                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-18 15:37                     ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-18 15:58                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-14 16:06               ` Stephen Leake
2023-05-15 18:58                 ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-11 14:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-11 18:00   ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-11 18:31     ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-12 13:32       ` Eshel Yaron
2023-05-16 19:38         ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-17  2:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-13 22:30     ` Richard Stallman
2023-05-14  6:48       ` Eshel Yaron

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