From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: how to find out methods for tramp? Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200206190223.g5J2NZ915936@aztec.santafe.edu> <200206191512.g5JFC9402106@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024501698 21697 127.0.0.1 (19 Jun 2002 15:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17Khgw-0005dq-00 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 17:48:18 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Ki8C-0002aF-00 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 18:16:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17Khgm-0008WO-00; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17KhfV-0008R5-00 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 11:46:50 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:46:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-Reply-To: <200206191512.g5JFC9402106@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4994 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4994 I think the use of a capital together with the particular grammatical construct used makes it clear that this use of the word `windows' refers to a proper name rather than to the general concept of a window. I'm surprised that anybody would be confused. I get confused because many of the people I know refer to `X Windows' and shorten that phrase to `Windows'. I also know some people who use Microsoft operating systems. Sometimes they use the word `Windows' the way the Microsoft marketing department wants them to, in a manner that denies the existence of any other windowing system. This multiple use of the word is what causes the ambiguity. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com