From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 10:56:11 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17H0Ml-000IeaC@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87elfhnlas.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (message from Miles Bader on 09 Jun 2002 13:11:23 +0900)
I think the Consensus on this mailing list seems to be that the
old-new-style -- node-names in header-line only, not copyable -- is
better.
It is better than duplicating lines, which as Eli says, looks like a
display bug. At this stage, the best temporary solution may be to
revert.
The ultimate solution may be more along the lines that Eli mentioned:
... a way to copy mode- and header-lines.
although the design of the current node header does not list the Info
filename, only the next, previous, and up nodes. I am not sure that
the current header format is wrong; I am only saying that it is not
useful to me as designed.
Considering what you [Miles] said:
That leaves the question of what people like who _do_ want easy
copyability should do.
1) Just tell them `set Info-use-header-line to nil'
This is the way it has been for a while, and works fine for
knowledgeable people. This feature should certainly continue.
2) Keep reminding them of the `Info-copy-current-node-name' function
(bound to `c' in info-mode, and also in the Info menu)
We don't need to say more than this.
3) Perhaps add a more intuitive binding for Info-copy-current-node-name.
I think both the mouse and keyboard bindings for
`Info-copy-current-node-name' are fine as they are.
The `Info-copy-current-node-name' function produces output that is
very convenient if you know Info, since it creates a reference in a
form that `Info-goto-node' understands.
Unfortunately, I often communicate with people who don't know about
Info, or who know very little, whom I am trying to inspire.
For example, yesterday morning, a correspondent asked whether Texinfo
files are directed graphs? After distinguishing between the
organization of a document and the @section and similar commands,
which format headers, I quoted from Texinfo manual, saying
As the Texinfo manual says with respect to Info:
File: texinfo, Node: Info Files
For this person, such a long-winded reference is more informative and
inspiring than the output of the `Info-copy-current-node-name'
function,
(texinfo)Info Files
even though the latter is more efficient for those who already know
Info. (I doubt this correspondent knows much about Info yet. I hope
she will start using Texinfo to document her work, which is writing
programs for biological researchers, as well as make the software
free.)
--
Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com
Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-06-09 10:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-06-06 18:32 Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-06 23:24 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-07 23:22 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-08 0:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-08 21:39 ` Romain FRANCOISE
2002-06-08 22:08 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-08 22:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-09 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-09 10:56 ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2002-06-09 5:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 16:46 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-10 20:50 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 22:18 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-10 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 11:15 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-11 21:00 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-06-11 5:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-10 20:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-10 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 9:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-06-10 19:57 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-11 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11 20:01 ` Jason Rumney
2002-06-11 23:45 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-12 12:14 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 22:15 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-13 21:46 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 23:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 13:10 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-19 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-21 21:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21 23:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-21 9:40 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 15:34 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-13 17:17 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <200206130905.g5D95ie06537@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-06-13 11:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-13 23:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-14 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-17 19:28 ` Patch for emacs-lisp-intro.texi Christian Egli
2002-06-11 19:25 ` Patch to disable links line in *info* buffer Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 23:04 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 10:15 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-09 15:18 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-09 15:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-06-09 23:38 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-10 23:43 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 5:14 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-10 5:24 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-10 23:43 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-11 0:12 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11 5:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11 7:05 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-11 13:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 10:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-12 23:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-13 13:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-06-14 15:47 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-14 19:00 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12 2:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-12 2:53 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-12 18:21 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-12 21:36 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-06-11 4:17 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-11 5:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-06-11 15:26 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-06-09 5:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-07 13:35 David Ponce
2002-06-07 13:56 David Ponce
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