From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions? Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200205240043.g4O0hXj01216@aztec.santafe.edu> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022262649 4817 127.0.0.1 (24 May 2002 17:50:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17BJDF-0001Fa-00 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 19:50:49 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17BJTE-0008Ii-00 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 20:07:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17BJDe-0001rC-00; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:51:14 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17BJBb-0001l4-00 for ; Fri, 24 May 2002 13:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Fri, 24 May 2002 17:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (message from Simon Josefsson on Fri, 24 May 2002 18:34:53 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4341 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4341 Simon Josefsson wrote: I don't have mouse-2 on my laptop. I can use all GNOME & KDE applications just fine, but Emacs is almost unusable until I plug in an external mouse. I am very confused: how can Emacs be `almost unusable' without an external mouse? What I am trying to get at is, what user-model are you presuming? Clearly, a user-model that always presumes access to a 3 button mouse produces a quite different user interface requirements than a user-model that presumes access to a 3 button mouse only some of the time. (Similarly, a user-model that presumes the user is always going to remain a novice leads to a different user interface than a user-model that presumes the user starts as a novice but can learn.) (You don't need a mouse for Emacs. Indeed, about a half hour ago, I was connected, via an ssh hop to a machine and then from there via telnet, through a slow connection (perhaps 1200 baud; traceroute indicated some sort of trouble in Newark, NJ) to a third machine, using Emacs without a mouse.) -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com