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From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: German tutorial fix
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 19:45:05 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m17AyWH-000If2C@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87elg8upk7.fsf@emacswiki.org> (message from Alex Schroeder on Sun, 19 May 2002 17:26:16 +0200)

   Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

   > It's easily observable by any touch-typist, by (1) taking some time to
   > get used to the control-keys, and (2) trying both for about 3 seconds
   > while typing in some text.  It's not a subtle thing.

   I do not find it easily observable.  I bet it also depends on keyboard
   layout and customizations outside of Emacs.  

Do please tell me your keyboard and customizations.  

I just tried Miles' experiment on a QWERTY keyboard, with the arrow
keys to the lower right.  By counting how many I could press in 5 and
10 seconds, I found that I can press C-n or C-p in 200 milliseconds or
so and press an arrow key in 800 milliseconds or so.  (Presumably,
with more practice, I could speed up my arrow key press time, but
still, that action has to take longer than pressing a control key
since it requires moving my right hand two rows down and 3.5 rows to
the right but pressing a control-chord does not require moving my
hands, just my fingers.)

As far as I can see, the arrow keys are as Miles says, *more obvious*.
But in my experience, on the computer keyboards I have been using for
the past generation, they are less efficient than control keys.

-- 
    Robert J. Chassell                  bob@rattlesnake.com
    Rattlesnake Enterprises             http://www.rattlesnake.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-23 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-14 13:07 German tutorial fix Mario Lang
2002-05-14 15:05 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16  7:22   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16 10:37     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-16 12:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-16 14:10         ` Andreas Fuchs
2002-05-16 15:37           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-17 19:28         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18  0:44           ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-05-18  2:00             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-18  7:17               ` Andreas Fuchs
2002-05-18 11:59               ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-05-18 12:12                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-18 12:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-18 13:11                     ` Andreas Fuchs
2002-05-19  4:56                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19  5:30                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 20:36                     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-20 22:58                   ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-05-19  5:30                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 12:54                   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-19 13:30                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-19 14:47                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-19 15:26                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-19 16:10                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-20 10:47                           ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-23 19:45                         ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2002-05-23 23:45                           ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-20 14:48                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 14:18               ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-18  6:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-19 19:44             ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-05-20 14:40               ` Mario Lang
2002-05-20 21:13                 ` Colin Walters
2002-05-17 19:28       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15  0:13 ` Werner LEMBERG
2002-05-15  4:41   ` Eli Zaretskii

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