From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robert J. Chassell" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: German tutorial fix Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87y9emho8s.fsf@lexx.delysid.org> <200205160722.g4G7M8X18181@aztec.santafe.edu> <3277-Thu16May2002155214+0300-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <200205171928.g4HJSdw20390@aztec.santafe.edu> <87znyywagx.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> Reply-To: bob@rattlesnake.com NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021900870 3619 127.0.0.1 (20 May 2002 13:21:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 13:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 179n65-0000wG-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:21:09 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 179nK3-00076C-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 15:35:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179n6B-0001nQ-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 09:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from megalith.rattlesnake.com ([140.186.114.245] helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179n5I-0001lU-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 09:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: by rattlesnake.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.114) Sun, 19 May 2002 15:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <87znyywagx.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> (message from Francesco Potorti` on 18 May 2002 02:44:46 +0200) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4171 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4171 What I think we don't need is to explain, demonstrate, and drill the user in basic cursor motion. Drilling them is what teaches them to use C-f rather than an arrow key. So maybe it is still worth while to drill them. I think that using C-f instead of the arrow key is very advanced usage. On the contrary, using C-f is basic and enables a slow and inexperienced typist to learn to type faster. When a novice learns to take his or her hand off the keyboard, he or she forgoes the chance to advance, since it is impossible to learn to work well when using arrow keys or the mouse. -- Robert J. Chassell bob@rattlesnake.com Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com