From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Liu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r112347: * doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi (defcustom, defun, simplified-beginning-of-buffer, defvar, Building Robots, Review, save-excursion): `defun' and `defcustom' are now macros rather than special forms. (Bug#13853) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:17:45 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87obd8rnk1.fsf@yandex.ru> <9yli8bzriy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366600685 29896 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2013 03:18:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: xfq , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 22 05:18:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UU7GZ-0005e6-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 05:18:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39379 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU7GZ-0001c0-16 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:18:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36811) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU7GW-0001bv-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:18:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU7GV-0001fm-7s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:18:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.220.43]:59707) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UU7GV-0001fg-2N; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:18:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz1so796100pad.16 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:18:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=TLsU0gStHvNeYXAdsenJ4u1FBbNTmScMD3sgW1X5nUc=; b=ZTWveb2C8IwJbk1Gt2CdJKlwYP4rhDz+KfrRoCKIL//bFIu+tAjn0sZzU+cB6jwPSt hBsYgYeuFKS3UjlU6vgpgy7yH2wieV9/EmNV0fLoIPpyp5E5hJ68SgYG03atXlW/Kbm5 BIABoPupyXn30LclxgP2cXBj4wfYBx2yFtnLIbaUm9zrO8yXmoDzj0NhnwsXB1Ggm7h9 42BpZJlmb/D0Nwe74pdmjd5BGEaVx4USXdYvM7M8yqHTlXNH61N8bbXbmJ74I/CMx7c/ TDQzmUI/tINTv0XKvbVwh5qcFWvF68XMmtlIhNDDDFYvVwxp1fxnx7dLT893YLTBjjgY 6Few== X-Received: by 10.68.253.196 with SMTP id ac4mr30370618pbd.57.1366600682356; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Zeuss-MacBook.local ([110.172.225.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x2sm2258580pba.32.2013.04.21.20.17.58 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: <9yli8bzriy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:07:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (OS X 10.8.3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.43 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159103 Archived-At: On 2013-04-22 02:07 +0800, Glenn Morris wrote: > The problem I saw with these changes, and the reason I did not fix it > at the time it was reported. Exactly. Doc tweaks can easily turn into bikeshedding. I think a general rule (for all occasional committers) is to fix obvious errors and discuss uncertain items before jumping the gun. This commit is a step backwards. Leo