From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Theodor Thornhill Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 21:38:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <874kbbosht.fsf@gnus.org> <8335qur9h7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7133"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, danflscr@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, sir@cmpwn.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 27 21:39:54 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJhhg-0001Ya-Bf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 21:39:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42848 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJhhe-0000sI-Gv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45920) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJhgq-0008Rw-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from out1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:863f::]:45356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJhgk-0007xS-Of; Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:38:59 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273178 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:29:46 +0200 >> From: Theodor Thornhill >> CC: Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Fleischer , >> philipk@posteo.net >> >> >There doesn't seem to be much movement on getting GitLab to support the >> >features we want, so perhaps we should take a closer look at SourceHut >> >instead. Has anybody here done an evaluation of SourceHut to see >> >whether it'd fit our requirements? >> > >> >> We actually discussed it on this list with its creator, Drew DeVault last year: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-09/msg00534.html > > That was almost a year ago, and the discussion is thin on actual > details. Support for email-based workflow is a good start, and is one > of the main requirements, but what about the GitLab/Github-like > features? if they are missing or incomplete, we will be trading > debbugs for something that is basically the same beast in a different > wrapping. And what about the other requirements we collected and > documented in the GitLab issue about this? > It seems like Sourcehut supports everything requested, but I might be missing something, of course. In particular the CI is very nice and simple, at least for the hosted version at https://sr.ht. It also supports running without javascript at all, so the libreJS debate should be settled right there. Instead of me speaking on sourcehuts behalf, with which I have no affiliation outside of being a happy customer myself, I'll ping the creator. @drew, should I or someone else create an issue over at sourcehut about this or do you want to chime in here? (apologies if contacting you this way is inappropriate) > So, like Lars, I think it would help if someone could post an > evaluation of SourceHut vs what we'd like to see, using the GitLab > issue as the baseline. > > TIA Hope this helps, Theodor