From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:26:16 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1096291271.415813c757a26@imp6-q.free.fr> <20040927134714.GA20012@fencepost> <87hdphx91c.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87655wswkv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <871xgejdk7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096975645 25695 80.91.229.6 (5 Oct 2004 11:27:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Francesco Potorti` , rms@gnu.org, Jerome Marant , emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" , Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 13:27:14 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CEnTO-0001iz-00 for ; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 13:27:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEna1-0000LT-61 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEnZu-0000LN-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:33:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEnZt-0000Kw-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEnZt-0000Km-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [206.47.199.165] (helo=simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CEnSZ-000867-8C; Tue, 05 Oct 2004 07:26:23 -0400 Original-Received: from empanada.home ([67.68.216.150]) by simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with ESMTP id <20041005112334.TRCM1960.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@empanada.home>; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 07:23:34 -0400 Original-Received: by empanada.home (Postfix, from userid 502) id DD22A311AF5; Tue, 5 Oct 2004 07:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: <871xgejdk7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (Rob Browning's message of "Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:58:32 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27931 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27931 > Actually now that I think about it, at least for those packaging > Emacs, it's somewhat critical. Right now Debian pacakges Emacs as > emacsXY where XY is the major number (i.e. emacs19, emacs21, etc.). > This is done under the assumption that only a change in XY signals the > potential for major breakage. While I mostly agree that we should change emacs-major-version for non-bug-fix releases, I think that limitations of specific packaging systems are not a motivating factor. I actually think that your problems should cause you to reconsider the design of the packaging system since such problems surely happen with other packages as well. Stefan "who's generally disappointed by the poor support for multiple concurrently installed versions of a single package in most package systems"