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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276666 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Juri Linkov >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:10:50 +0300 >> >> >> I think this inconsistency is unfortunate and unjustified. Can we >> >> please move same-window-prefix to "C-x 4 5" for consistency with the >> >> equivalent frame command? >> > >> > Sorry, I meant "C-x 4 4" and other-window-prefix. >> >> Please explain where do you think is inconsistency. >> 'C-x 4 4' is already bound to 'other-window-prefix'. > > But other-frame-prefix is "C-x 5 5". This is inconsistent with other > uses of these prefixes, specifically "C-x 5 2", "C-x 5 b", C-x 5 f", > which have their "C-x 4" counterparts. I agree it'd be nice to be consistent. The argument about "C-x 4 4" and "C-x 5 5" being easier to remember might not be relevant once the commands are in muscle memory, I don't know. I don't have a strong opinion here.