From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Reich=F6r?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: draft for DEL key poll Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:30:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d3endlw3.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> <877h4vync0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317105050 5291 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2011 06:30:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:30:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 27 08:30:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBm-0003z8-RT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:30:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38641 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBl-0000cH-PR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48023) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBi-0000bx-Cz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBg-0000Qv-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:30:42 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBg-0000QT-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8RBd-0003x9-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:30:37 +0200 Original-Received: from 193.186.169.68 ([193.186.169.68]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:30:36 +0200 Original-Received: from stefan by 193.186.169.68 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:30:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.186.169.68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sD0UiDPQZ0z/X8lzHzmupzHUJ/I= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144382 Archived-At: no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Karl Fogel writes: > >> Richard Stallman writes: >>>I'm planning the poll about DEL. Here is a draft for comments. (I >>>will also write a poll about completion.) >>> >>>In Emacs 24, now in pretest, a change is being considered for DEL >>>(often the Backspace key) and the Delete function key. When there is >>>an active region, they would delete the region instead of just one >>>character. This is enabled by default in the current pretest, so >>>building and using the pretest is a way to test it. > >> >> It would be great to have some elisp I could evaluate to test this >> change before I vote in a poll about it. > > Actually, if you use cua-mode, DEL and BS have always behaved like this! > Maybe this fact should be mentioned in the poll, so users of cua-mode > are not confused when trying to determine what's changed (since nothing > changed). > > I guess cua-mode need some testing under 24.1 in this respect > (in particular, cua-mode saves the deleted text in register "0", > which I strongly prefer to messing with the kill-ring). When using cua rectangle mode (start with C-RET), DEL does not delete the selection. It just deletes one character and disables the selection. This is often annoying. Is this a bug or a design feature? I consider it a bug. Stefan.