From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: George Plymale II Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2018 03:21:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517818851 17613 195.159.176.226 (5 Feb 2018 08:20:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 08:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 05 09:20:46 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eic0s-0003N7-Jw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:20:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39283 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eic2t-0006Ym-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 03:22:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33045) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eic23-0006XV-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 03:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eic20-0004B4-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 03:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-io0-x241.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::241]:41172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eic1z-0004Ap-Rt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 03:21:39 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-io0-x241.google.com with SMTP id f4so29385430ioh.8 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 00:21:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=orbitalimpact.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=MBhHsasdj29azlXIOY7KRGQDuIA5ACBVtWZRiTSqsSU=; b=cG7pllfQU/pXbzcQxpzqcmcGykgEBQsOjW4x8rooEdS0Lvj9QTs4pniNpTsIRmBDbH N083eIJpMYed3R8eK6Awqy3I6E257DbOnGSl3VY4HIrYfXUCJ/66HcnNoQmLskkbIOBI pxrZ+WUuZjQWULo1vNbameVxNRT0xEQOS67w0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=MBhHsasdj29azlXIOY7KRGQDuIA5ACBVtWZRiTSqsSU=; b=cVYl+4E+8scdVIEVDkN8wWpdfAaDrhe3a5GNOoR/CGLiOirafnZpZsI3v+CZ07IafW K1/N9todfX80LAHegO66wKqu2KS/Za4Mzi5pkLUwT/7Vg+8HIPyrIMxGtXVQpIxY5aZR K6GC/UswuJE3TlNZ86WYsD1O0ppS8xPz04CSNc8kVPFv3p8u3hB9R9fOTeJV2+cMjfk4 42zhz7FeVu2HQA0IWRVfQm7KD9hf6Pa1Ih8Ey2j+xwwz9OHGCZe0D7rmUEU/bMvg221O V+9QUo5FHuStQYu+BjVkuEHrBGN0uAgAcFfpmKdhqg02cwt3cOD+1NvCKw3m9nzA6EK1 QpBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxyteLZ62YVYx37Jn+CYKUTlJCiQLAVMoYgMlXcsBlZLZ/mhNBSTwZ u4LR7KEVU9U1AbT8v//f6eP6eOqQHzi/rg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224l90abB8ozQqM0hgHeMGYRHx6CQnSTgKJGgS8gE+OszX7EjUZSxkA2doaWElWhkdu3HYHXIQ== X-Received: by 10.107.173.17 with SMTP id w17mr51273382ioe.262.1517818898926; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 00:21:38 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from lehi.dev.orbitalimpact.com (ip-15-39-52-196.chicago.us.northamericancoax.com. [196.52.39.15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e21sm4869916ita.28.2018.02.05.00.21.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 05 Feb 2018 00:21:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (message from Paul Eggert on Fri, 2 Feb 2018 14:28:08 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::241 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222540 Archived-At: > Having been the target of a frivolous software lawsuit myself > > I am sympathetic to this argument. However, such lawsuits don't mean we > should give up on the legal system entirely; that would be throwing out > the baby with the bathwater. Instead, we should use the legal system as > best we can, and work to improve it where it has significant flaws. Totally in agreement with you. I just dislike myself (or others) having to worry about these kinds of things at all. But I guess that's just the world we live in today. > Yes, that's often the case. A lot of FUD has been spread about the GPL > and the GNU project. Well, I actually distilled this opinion from information that I got from the FSF's website and gnu.org. So I doubt I was reading any GPL FUD from them ;)