From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading a package applies automatically to future sessions? Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:06:55 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: <87efm4mk2z.fsf@rub.de> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1517929578 22856 195.159.176.226 (6 Feb 2018 15:06:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 15:06:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 06 16:06:13 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4oq-0004vL-MW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:06:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54720 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4qs-00014Q-1v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:08:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4qk-00010t-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:08:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4qh-0006ZR-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:07:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49670 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4qh-0006WD-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 10:07:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ej4oF-0002kX-Dq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:05:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:67aDx829hzmGr16ZrBVt+GL5tFM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:222577 Archived-At: > * George Plymale II [2018-02-01 18:02:12 -0500]: > > Well, my understanding of the policy was that one's _contributions_ > are owned by the FSF. I.e., that you have to sign waivers which tell > the FSF, "Hey, I give up all rights to own any code that I give you > guys in these certain projects." To me, that seems hypocritical and it > seemed that indeed the actual FSF policy versus what the FSF itself > expounds were in disagreement. But, maybe I'm incorrect about that if > that above passage is really what it sounds like. This is a very common misunderstanding. You _can_ distribute GNU software with your own changes under the GNU GPL - this is called "forking", and has been done many times. The most notable example is Lucid/X Emacs. However, if you want the FSF to accept your changes into their source code repository, you will have to assign them the copyright so that you (or your heirs) will not be able to sabotage the FSF software development by revoking your license to use your changes. This also happened before (Gosling Emacs), and the FSF is now understandably paranoid. So, to repeat: you _can_ distribute your changes yourself. If you want _the FSF_ to do that, you have to sign the papers. HTH. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1561 http://steingoldpsychology.com http://www.childpsy.net http://iris.org.il http://mideasttruth.com http://honestreporting.com https://jihadwatch.org Complete tolerance is impossible: it is insulting to bigots.