From: Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: package-update-all from command line
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 11:04:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lztu9fj7kg.fsf@3c22fb11fdab.ant.amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvee0joxko.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 May 2022 09:54:30 -0400")
> * Stefan Monnier <zbaavre@veb.hzbagerny.pn> [2022-05-24 09:54:30 -0400]:
>
>> I would like to be able to update packages from the command line, and
>> thanks to Lars, I now can do
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> emacs -batch -funcall package-initialize -load ~/.emacs.elc -funcall package-update-all
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> `package-initialize` should basically never be needed any more (other
> than internally within `package.el`). `package-activate-all` should
> be sufficient.
> If not, report it as a bug.
replacing `package-initialize' with `package-activate-all' above results in
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function package-update-all)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>> 1. It prints "No packages to update" even though M-x list-packages RET
>> reports "Packages that can be upgraded: 3; type ‘U’ to mark for upgrading".
>
> I'll let the author of `package-update-all` deal with this part :-)
.emacs fragment for Lars:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(with-eval-after-load "package"
(dolist (s '(("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")))
(add-to-list 'package-archives s)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>> 2. Loading ~/.emacs.elc is relatively slow (e.g., because it fetches a
>> remote `remember-data-file'). so I would rather use something smaller.
>
> If it hurts don't do that: e.g., only fetch that remote file
> if (not noninteractive) or something like that.
I restart emacs only once a week, when I rebuild it.
Not a problem interactively.
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> emacs -batch -load package -load ~/.config/emacs/package-quickstart.elc \
>
> The above 2 steps should be subsumed by calling `package-activate-all`
no, as indicated by the error above, `package-activate-all' does not
load package, so `package-update-all' and `package-archives' is still
not available:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Error: void-variable (package-archives)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>> -eval '(setq package-selected-packages (delete-dups package-activated-list))' \
>
> Hmm... I wonder why you needed that.
because otherwise `package-selected-packages' is nil and there is
nothing to update.
and I need `delete-dups' because `package-activated-list' will repeat
all installed packages as many times as `list-packages' or
`package-quickstart-refresh' was called.
>> -eval '(push (quote ("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) package-archives)' \
>
> This one basically plays the role of a stripped down version of your `.emacs`.
yep - a fraction of a percent.
>> E.g., I would like to save `package-archives' in
>> `package-quickstart-file' so that I won't have to specify it on the
>> command line (it is set in ~/.emacs, of course).
>
> I can't think of a way to do that in a way that's reliable for all the
> various ways this var can be set. :-(
just add a setq at the end, like we already do with `package-activated-list'.
Thank you for your reply.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-24 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-24 3:42 package-update-all from command line Sam Steingold
2022-05-24 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-24 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 16:00 ` Loading early-init.el in batch mode (was: package-update-all from command line) Stefan Monnier
2022-05-24 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-05-24 15:04 ` Sam Steingold [this message]
2022-05-24 15:52 ` package-update-all from command line Stefan Monnier
2022-05-24 19:01 ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-24 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-25 15:14 ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-25 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-26 15:13 ` Sam Steingold
2022-05-26 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-25 1:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-25 4:58 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-25 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-25 12:27 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-05-27 10:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-27 20:33 ` Tassilo Horn
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