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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293068 Archived-At: > * Stefan Monnier [2022-08-02 18:10:02 -0400]: > >> compiled file, so that Emacs can reject loading a file with an incorrect >> version. > > Emacs instead aims to be able to keep loading old byte-compiled files > so we try hard to change the byte-codes only in ways which are > backward compatible. This is a very noble aim. Does it ever happen that Emacs breaks byte-codes as a design decision? Or is Emacs _supposed_ to be able to load ELC from 1990? Thank you for your reply. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com https://fairforall.org https://www.dhimmitude.org https://jij.org You think Oedipus had a problem -- Adam was Eve's mother.