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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292717 Archived-At: I thought that byte-opt was intended to set `pure'. `side-effect-free' &c properties for functions that are defined in C and functions defined in Lisp should get these from `declare'. However, I see that, e.g., `xor' uses `declare' but `string-prefix-p' is listed in byte-opt and does not have a declaration. What is the official policy? Thank you. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.2113 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com https://iris.org.il https://www.memritv.org https://ffii.org Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product.