From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Would you like to work on improving Emacs full time? 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:149916 Archived-At: When I started the crowdfunding thread I was assuming there were developers reading this list who'd like to work on implementing Emacs features full time if there was a way to fund it. Of course, it is not necessary to work on Emacs full time to implement new fetures, but there are complex features which apparently don't happen in the current volunteer development model, or if they do happen then it takes a very long time to implement them if one only works on them in one's free time. I guess it's more likely that freelancers would take up working on an Emacs feature full time, because people with regular jobs are not likely to give up their jobs, just to work on a feature for several months. (But who knows?) So the question is: are there people here who'd like to work on an often requested feature full time if they could get the necessary funding? This the first question which needs to be answered, because if emacs is only a hobby for its developers and everyone has his regular job which he doesn't want to give up for working on emacs then the crowdfunding model can't be applied to implement often requested, but complex, difficult to implement features. Of course, if the crowdfunding model proves to be successful then it can even be a permanent job to work on emacs by starting crowdfundings one after the other. Especially, if compelling features are implemented with this model, because this could mean more users for Emacs who'd otherwise use an other editor/IDE and more users would mean an even bigger crowdfunding pool for implementing even more compelling features, etc. But first we have to have the ball rolling somehow. So if you work on emacs (either on the core or on some packages) in your free time and would be willing to work on a most wanted feature full time with crowdfunding then please speak up, so we at least know there are developers interested in this model. We should know if there are interested developers at all in order to judge if this model could work for Emacs. (Of course, there can be interested developers who are not on this list, but I don't know how they can be reached, that's why I brought up the subject here where such developers are likely to be.)