From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.statistics.pspp.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: pspp-mode.el for PSPP/SPSS syntax highlighting Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 09:38:41 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4836167B-33A9-46A3-B586-20768E333E1D@gmx.de> <20200704151535.GA31917@jocasta.intra> <22A164F2-0003-4454-B301-3696DB7A1281@gmx.de> <87mu4dhpmn.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> <20200705183502.GA31173@jocasta.intra> <87blkthfxw.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> <87r1tpfahu.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7040"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Friedrich Beckmann , John Darrington , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , PSPP Development Mailing List , mail@vasilij.de To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 06 08:42:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jsKpg-0001iI-2Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:42:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46732 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsKpf-0006w5-0q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 02:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsKmE-0005wu-Rc; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 02:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from relay-2.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.5]:55979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsKmA-0004tk-V8; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 02:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-2.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84C3C126F; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:38:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:38:47 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: yf58kN0saNIKhXCZT1tgx4otmiGSAMj5ZDzLgizfDra52cXyFSj/8EBtwZEIyg73Vm5cghY1MJMshV94cC0vqCWwPe5Ztnp+ In-Reply-To: <87r1tpfahu.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Sun, 05 Jul 2020 23:01:01 -0700") OpenPGP: id=525F7E60AD812C2361752BB4C8B0F8548EE7F3E7; url=https://openpgpkey.gnui.org/.well-known/openpgpkey/gnui.org/hu/hr4k5tkxm6shwdc18su4bkm34w3dctjd Mail-Copies-To: always Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.5; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-2.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/06 01:00:35 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252726 gmane.comp.statistics.pspp.devel:7587 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sean Whitton wrote: > On Mon 06 Jul 2020 at 08:53AM +03, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> Sean Whitton wrote: >>> On Sun 05 Jul 2020 at 08:35PM +02, John Darrington wrote: >>>> Sure. But from a user's perspective I don't see the advantage in that= . I mean what is the difference between typing "apt-get install pspp-mode"= and "M-x package-install 'pspp-mode" ? >>> >>> From the perspective of those of us working on packaging Emacs addons i= n Debian, significant advantages are >>> >>> 1) the way addons work doesn't change within a Debian stable release, j= ust like Emacs itself doesn't change within a Debian stable release >>> >>> 2) addons get installed using Debian's mechanisms for a secure software= supply chain, rather than relying on https alone. >> >> 3) they are automatically available to #!/usr/bin/emacs --script scrip= ts; and pollute stderr at every run: > This only happens with old style addons. Once we have finished migrating= all addons in the archive to our newer tooling you won't see this. The first part of the advantage will be still valid, though, right? That i= s, they are prepended to =E2=80=98load-path=E2=80=99 even with -q / --batch= / --script, while package.el-managed packages do not. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXwLG8Q0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnBTEBAOey9/KKFMbMC3M9HVFYGYrhSsIHZs9v5qKHNomA oHPuAQDGQa3A0M4IrIvtcWtGwle13Ns/XHBjXr3Qy2zwAlCiAg== =dE3E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--