From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Allen S. Rout" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384871780 29451 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2013 14:36:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:36:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 15:36:25 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPd-0008Ky-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPc-0003o7-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPS-0003l2-Ul for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:36:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPL-0002Sv-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:36:10 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPL-0002Si-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:36:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VimPE-00082r-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:56 +0100 Original-Received: from n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu ([128.227.106.74]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:56 +0100 Original-Received: from asr by n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:35:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165382 Archived-At: On 11/19/2013 03:46 AM, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > I think if we narrow the "the job" down to "Emacs as word > processor interaction pane" (or whatever the prevalent term is for > rectangular screen area for interaction), and omit the menus and other > peripheral control widgets from consideration, we can postulate some > specific features: If we were to imagine that these features exist, I suggest that the resulting Emacs environment would not be significantly more accesible to the random MS Word operator than is the current environment. In fact, I think we'd push it into the Uncanny Valley; increasing frustration because, having made the surface look somewhat like they expect, we have left the bones in the "alien" configuration they don't understand. In basic Emacs, at least they know they're not in Kansas. Anyway, since I'm not anteing code, I figure that's my 2cents. Go you. :) - Allen S. Rout