From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Allen S. Rout" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384805975 7208 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2013 20:19:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 20:19:35 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 21:19:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVIK-0007OV-70 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:19:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45738 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVIJ-0007Ns-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVI9-0007Nj-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVI0-000390-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:29 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58769) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVI0-00038w-LV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ViVHz-0007F0-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:19:19 +0100 Original-Received: from n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu ([128.227.106.74]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:19:19 +0100 Original-Received: from asr by n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 21:19:19 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: n128-227-106-74.xlate.ufl.edu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165341 Archived-At: On 11/18/2013 01:44 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > But there are so many people who don't use Emacs or TeX. They use > WYSIWYG word processors only. I wish we could make Emacs easy for > them to use, so they could get the benefit of Emacs's other advantages > while doing their word processing. > I think Emacs could not be 'like' Microsoft Word in this way, without introducing a crushing maintenance load. WYSIAIG-alike behavior would involve imitating whatever UI elements are popular this decade; ribbon? flat design? Whatever. These are just as important to making it "easy for them to use" as any nuance of rendering; but if the rendering is not exactly correct too, people are alienated. - Allen S. Rout - Peanut gallery.