From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows Date: 04 Aug 2004 17:09:56 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <001401c478de$908a92d0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <1091508072.20683.201576204@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091653871 19290 80.91.224.253 (4 Aug 2004 21:11:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lennart Borgman , Dhruva Krishnamurthy , Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 04 23:10:40 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BsT1y-0000we-00 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 23:10:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BsT5U-0000ka-4M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:14:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BsT5M-0000kL-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:14:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BsT5L-0000k9-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BsT5L-0000k6-BW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:14:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BsT1X-0005wC-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 17:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8789B3027B; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4E43C8CA23; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 17:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: "Peter 'Luna' Runestig" In-Reply-To: <4111491A.4090601@runestig.com> Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:26183 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:26183 >> What ever approach you/anyone writing an Installation program for MS OS >> takes, IMO, please make sure we do not have to have _admin_ rights to >> install. This is a real stopper. I have found many users giving up on >> lot of tools due to this limitation. > Why? Why should "lusers" install new software on a computer? Why not? If the admin gave them the right to do that (which is the case by default)? Stefan PS: Another request: make sure the installer does not require to agree to the GPL before installing. You can put a blurb about "this is GPL'd isn't that grand", but don't put one of those silly "you have to agree to the licence before I can continue" thingies since the GPL is irrelevant to the user's right to install and run the software.