* (emacs)Log Buffer @ 2005-06-04 2:38 Luc Teirlinck 2005-06-04 3:31 ` Nick Roberts 2005-06-04 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-04 2:38 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Nick Roberts `(emacs)Log Buffer' contains: Sometimes the `*VC-Log*' buffer contains default text when you enter it, typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to kill the contents of the buffer with `C-w'. Is this really true with the default settings? I have never seen it, not using Emacs CVS and not using RCS. Or is this only true when vc-delete-logbuf-window is nil? (The default is t.) If the latter, the mark and point stuff could be better mentioned in the docstring of that option and the above paragraph deleted from the Emacs manual. Sincerely, Luc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-04 2:38 (emacs)Log Buffer Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-04 3:31 ` Nick Roberts 2005-06-04 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Nick Roberts @ 2005-06-04 3:31 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: emacs-devel > `(emacs)Log Buffer' contains: > > Sometimes the `*VC-Log*' buffer contains default text when you enter > it, typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point > are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to > kill the contents of the buffer with `C-w'. > > Is this really true with the default settings? I have never seen it, > not using Emacs CVS and not using RCS. Or is this only true when > vc-delete-logbuf-window is nil? (The default is t.) If the latter, > the mark and point stuff could be better mentioned in the docstring > of that option and the above paragraph deleted from the Emacs manual. I don't know when its true. I copied this paragraph from the node "Log Edit Mode" in pcl-cvs.texi. I would guess that Stefan is the original author. If you change it in emacs.tex, you also need to change it in pcl-cvs.texi (assuming its wrong: its always hard to know if something is _sometimes_ true or not). Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-04 2:38 (emacs)Log Buffer Luc Teirlinck 2005-06-04 3:31 ` Nick Roberts @ 2005-06-04 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier 2005-06-04 16:47 ` Luc Teirlinck 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2005-06-04 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Nick Roberts, emacs-devel > `(emacs)Log Buffer' contains: > Sometimes the `*VC-Log*' buffer contains default text when you enter > it, typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point > are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to > kill the contents of the buffer with `C-w'. > Is this really true with the default settings? It should. If not, it's a bug. > I have never seen it, > not using Emacs CVS and not using RCS. Or is this only true when > vc-delete-logbuf-window is nil? This option is completely unrelated. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-04 16:39 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2005-06-04 16:47 ` Luc Teirlinck 2005-06-04 23:51 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-04 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: nickrob, emacs-devel Stefan Monnier wrote: > `(emacs)Log Buffer' contains: > Sometimes the `*VC-Log*' buffer contains default text when you enter > it, typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point > are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to > kill the contents of the buffer with `C-w'. > Is this really true with the default settings? It should. If not, it's a bug. Maybe my question was somewhat ambiguous. It concerned the first sentence, not the second. When is the `*VC-Log*' buffer supposed to contain default text when you enter it, if you are not using pcl-cvs and all settings are at default? Sincerely, Luc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-04 16:47 ` Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-04 23:51 ` Stefan Monnier 2005-06-07 2:18 ` Luc Teirlinck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2005-06-04 23:51 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: nickrob, emacs-devel >> Sometimes the `*VC-Log*' buffer contains default text when you enter >> it, typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point >> are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to >> kill the contents of the buffer with `C-w'. >> Is this really true with the default settings? > It should. If not, it's a bug. > Maybe my question was somewhat ambiguous. It concerned the first > sentence, not the second. When is the `*VC-Log*' buffer supposed to > contain default text when you enter it, if you are not using pcl-cvs > and all settings are at default? Maybe you're right that it never happens with default settings if you don't use PCL-CVS, but I'm not sure if it's relevant. Should the documentation not talk about things that happen if you use PCL-CVS or if you change some custom settings? Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-04 23:51 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2005-06-07 2:18 ` Luc Teirlinck 2005-06-08 12:01 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-07 2:18 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: nickrob, emacs-devel Stefan Monnier wrote: Maybe you're right that it never happens with default settings if you don't use PCL-CVS, but I'm not sure if it's relevant. Should the documentation not talk about things that happen if you use PCL-CVS or if you change some custom settings? The PCL-CVS manual should talk about what happens if you use PCL-CVS. The section in the Emacs manual documents VC with here and there some xref's to the PCL-CVS manual. As another remark on the recent changes in that node, the way C-c C-f is explained is confusing to the user, because at that stage nothing tells you how you could possibly commit more than one file at a time and it is only explained later in the more specialized sections on VC Dired. I propose to add some explanation. The two changes in the patch to files.texi are independent. I could install either or both. ===File ~/files.texi-diff=================================== *** files.texi 26 May 2005 21:44:35 -0500 1.107 --- files.texi 06 Jun 2005 20:44:33 -0500 *************** *** 1527,1537 **** When you check in changes, @kbd{C-x v v} first reads a log entry. It pops up a buffer called @samp{*VC-Log*} for you to enter the log entry. - Sometimes the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer contains default text when you enter it, - typically the last log message entered. If it does, mark and point - are set around the entire contents of the buffer so that it is easy to - kill the contents of the buffer with @kbd{C-w}. - @findex log-edit-insert-changelog If you work by writing entries in the @file{ChangeLog} (@pxref{Change Log}) and then commit the change under revision --- 1527,1532 ---- *************** *** 1545,1551 **** In the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer, @kbd{C-c C-f} (@kbd{M-x log-edit-show-files}) shows the list of files to be committed in case you need to check ! that. When you have finished editing the log message, type @kbd{C-c C-c} to exit the buffer and commit the change. --- 1540,1548 ---- In the @samp{*VC-Log*} buffer, @kbd{C-c C-f} (@kbd{M-x log-edit-show-files}) shows the list of files to be committed in case you need to check ! that. (This can be a list of more than one file if you use VC Dired ! mode or PCL-CVS. @xref{VC Dired Mode}, and @ref{Top, , About PCL-CVS, ! pcl-cvs, PCL-CVS --- The Emacs Front-End to CVS}.) When you have finished editing the log message, type @kbd{C-c C-c} to exit the buffer and commit the change. ============================================================ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (emacs)Log Buffer 2005-06-07 2:18 ` Luc Teirlinck @ 2005-06-08 12:01 ` Richard Stallman 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Richard Stallman @ 2005-06-08 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: nickrob, monnier, emacs-devel The two changes in the patch to files.texi are independent. I could install either or both. Please install only the second. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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