From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Post-22.1 development? Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878xb05ras.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200706101559.l5AFxBFb006829@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <86fy4yg62v.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <466ED07F.9000002@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181670247 30824 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2007 17:44:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 12 19:44:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HyAPR-0002rp-Sa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:44:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyAPR-00021r-8G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyAPN-0001zN-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HyAPL-0001vP-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HyAPL-0001vI-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts16.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.4] helo=tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HyAPJ-0005mf-Hx; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.143.156]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070612174349.UKYZ1673.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 247BE803E; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:43:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <466ED07F.9000002@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Tue\, 12 Jun 2007 17\:57\:35 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72705 Archived-At: >> I think the right way to do it is to change the multi-tty code's handling of >> environment so that it preserves the old behavior (and probably breaks >> some of the multi-tty support), then merge into the trunk, then try and fix >> the multi-tty part of the breakage. > I'm not sure exactly what the current breakage is, and why it is a The "breakage" is that process-environment needs to be sometimes replaced by (environment). This is partly unavoidable. Since we will have several environments, there will need a way for external package to explicitly request one or the other. > problem, but there are a number of environment variables that have come > up in this discussion that there is general agreement that they should > be terminal local (DISPLAY, TERM). I don't think the disagreement is about which variables should be terminal-local and which shouldn't. Rather it's about what API to present to external packages to manipulate the environment. `process-environment' plus `setenv' does not seem quite sufficient. Stefan