From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20091118191258.GA2676@muc.de> <20091119082040.GA1720@muc.de> <874ooq8xay.fsf@wanchan.jasonrumney.net> <20091119141852.GC1720@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258647449 27384 80.91.229.12 (19 Nov 2009 16:17:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Jason Rumney To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 19 17:17:19 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NB9h1-00021S-F5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:17:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NB9h0-0006oO-Tc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:17:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8y0-0000bC-O3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8xv-0000VN-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47855 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NB8xv-0000V9-D1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:35 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:3345 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NB8xt-00061W-Sg; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:34 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqYEAL/zBEvO+IIa/2dsb2JhbACBTdRchDsEgxGGWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,771,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="49658967" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-26.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.26]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2009 10:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 58A088774; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:30:18 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20091119141852.GC1720@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:18:52 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117256 Archived-At: > The actual character in the string is =F1 (#x3f). No: the string does not contain any characters, only bytes, because it's a unibyte string. So it contains the byte 241, not the character =F1. The byte 241 can be inserted in multibyte strings and buffers because it is also a char of code 4194289 (which gets displayed as \361). Stefan