From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop the Copyright Assignment requirement for Emacs Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 14:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tv18pyh4.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="75660"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: casouri@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, ndame@protonmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 08 20:07:25 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jX7PB-000Jae-D3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 20:07:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40240 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jX7P8-0007B6-QJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 14:07:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jX7OM-0005Dn-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 14:06:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:21665) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jX7OL-00066T-0i; Fri, 08 May 2020 14:06:33 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E7ECE814D8; Fri, 8 May 2020 14:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0C459810B1; Fri, 8 May 2020 14:06:29 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588961189; bh=jnPVwa+svBQIat7JxYyEYaho71G7c6LxsleP0FhW7V0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Cfrle4VmTdLhAmbPBMQ59jAECC82MK1sTgfTUqtY9bBgNnOGMDLappISNKPxksDHT mMdxxxbzNXrmalr2aHMzIyzettrXSInjEPXvXe37ZKKKspgapjYgqxqtJm/ojGqcoM HOmtNKl8bRtRnHDgvVcLbSATg4VZmmbXAeEZuZOcyshSOWbRuIO+9aBaR9d+twCtfO SuaWZht/44Qgq0YCSJPHln5q/g/Vm++nCkRAeIV7SSO4JuTvLLgUmfnSLSilgkIvM9 Pfxkd9lT+YbhrYE4+sjDtvtzHNEA6uZVM1SZekysT08vDcXRlBjjGUuCRvtKLLfC6X XQpHPCA/h5s+Q== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E0FF120268; Fri, 8 May 2020 14:06:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83zhaih0oz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 May 2020 19:05:16 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/08 14:06:31 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249308 Archived-At: > You originally said "Emacs development", so it was easy to > misunderstand that. Yes, I realized after the fact that my message might have been misunderstood (I read the discussion within the context of Phil asking for a way to streamline checking copyright assignment, where Phil's concern is for GNU ELPA packages (e.g. `dash`), but the message to which I was responding did not seem to be limited to GNU ELPA). For this reason I wanted to clarify my position. Stefan PS: I couldn't resist going back to check what I had actually written and I see I wrote: The better option is to stop requiring copyright paperwork. It is harmful to the Emacs project. So it was a bit confusing indeed, but compatible with my opinion: I consider that requiring copyright assignment for GNU ELPA packages is harmful to the Emacs project.