From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Include ivy + counsel in Emacs core? Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37651"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Oleh Krehel , Andrea Corallo To: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 22:36:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYk3-0009ge-VI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 22:36:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYk3-0001zB-0Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43978) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYjS-0001Z4-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:58908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHYjR-0007Ql-7m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 05CF04410AA; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6BCCD4410A4; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1600029374; bh=mGdpudjny3NLJleVs2I5PPyTbxqnTjvdZYwfxL+BPa4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=I67kI14b8ghtEHewqfn5+T1VhipZgxPiOhdlq4LvxI+ZGhNe9nqqNlmT6lL8J/0Yk 871MUkPEXCIv/aSuZ/rTIIvpgpDLUYidyT8pLt4NJnl24PTFn/ZS02pJzgBNUFoLw3 CrDYQ3SWJvmiWg18YkZCVYAT+PGkqC7KQmzlZBY5yx5rU7hu0VtRW7Um7k/kYdUR69 ZihQo98wKdoxbLS0hJOKP3mQCCloTRVx8snaq9ajYKcTdfhK2mEja+7RSY9xnQ7VAE 2uPwS7nhTmvyvnbesCT81m8WlKRl0ykMvZ0gIOxkPNIfjQOIH7K9fQcvnFb+UovQMf ylONmuaP9YKgg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3324512064D; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:36:14 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo via's message of "Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:53:10 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/13 15:03:09 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255573 Archived-At: > ivy+counsel it's a quality package that reached already noticeable > popularity. Does fuzzy completion with vertical output display, and its > counsel-M-X shows also the command key binding (feature I consider for > my experience a _game changer_ for softening the learning curve). > Finally it's already in ELPA. Last I heard Ivy still had problems with some completion tables (IIRC with those completion tables that return non-trivial values from `completion-boundaries`, such as the completion table used for filenames, tho there might be other issues such as the support for unquote/requote). If that's still the case (it was several years ago), then enabling Ivy by default would either introduce regressions when completing against such completion tables, or would force us to use 2 different UIs (the Ivy one where it works well, as some other UI for those other cases) ;-( Stefan