From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 5ec2115: Use =?utf-8?Q?'=E2=80=A6'?= for ellipsis in truncate-string-to-width by default (bug#41250) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:54:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20201004194159.3503.69418@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20201004194200.7B7A420A23@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <874kn7yjiu.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <87mu0zaiqf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <97e4cc51-0643-401e-a88f-891450ee548a@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12695"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 06 17:58:39 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPpMN-0003Ce-5j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 17:58:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60222 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPpMM-00050J-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:58:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPpIw-0002y9-4X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPpIt-0001RP-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2020 11:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 13EA010023C; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5C64C10006F; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:55:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1601999700; bh=fYp1bwvPamDxdbjQk0qUT2KlWp1qk2njQBVEJewSiVw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=POqFh4yQjszpWfPACa3a3zkQWUhJFiA8hbBhmRo3Y8arLiD6AnCt6yGliIetXipiA aQD0GwOr9ZUQEOn244CfbA4062uw6uyuUWLWhjLCbklUY5N1AJhiEyYRn5PowvISko tRc7al63+hmjRNsqDjKv7ZFr5E1ELScb7bpUN9XKxlFeguv2qzHRLnBbMt7RTfXwI9 1Ac9amgcNRzIwLDP4bCt0nG/ZOayhgK3OWfx16wP2axlVZ3wzH+PNsSXgVBxVIEkWJ NrceyjQcvgp3euAwFq2+BjFFw1/kzc3LIRdod0E9I8T+7CuRX3JeDrLdmJSP1ntkAv OpPPM9ef0WcCQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E19312003C; Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:55:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <97e4cc51-0643-401e-a88f-891450ee548a@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 6 Oct 2020 08:36:17 -0700 (PDT)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/06 09:08:42 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257175 Archived-At: > That "=E2=80=A6" char is pretty useless, in general. > Its appearance has nothing in common with that > of a real ellipsis, at least when a fixed-width > font is used. FWIW, I've been using "=E2=80=A6" for that ellipsis for a long time now, and I use a fixed-width font (misc-fixed-semicondensed) pretty much everywhere. So obviously my opinion disagrees with yours. I did end up using "=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6" at a few places (mostly for the outline-minor-mode ellipses), tho, because while I find "..." too long, "=E2=80=A6" ended up a bit too short for my taste in that case. For `truncate-string-to-width` (which is also used to truncate elements which are significantly shorter than a line's width (contrary to the outline-minor-mode ellipses) typically in multi-column tabular data), I found the extra 2 chars very welcome. Stefan