From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <87lfgciy9f.fsf@igel.home> <87362kfsf5.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19954"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Andreas Schwab , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 12 00:24:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kRjlT-00056z-NI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2020 00:24:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51430 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRjlR-0002gY-P7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45456) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRjkm-0002HY-RA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:4335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kRjkl-0007gf-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CCC6280B82; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6EAA880853; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:37 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602455017; bh=wuyeQGBW27ERyNGocD6JxH3uFJyVhRpE/P/7BCWBMLM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=cxh6Fcm7EdhcOjHTd8P3vhncHyhZADgcZFPKyvNpqcUeCdT4zR87B5VcGdfbwx2j4 mt2ZXMKGPBI/9GYDIrEHfFIUjxzbFSMLcxBfL19MWCI5QirE38rPHqvybOGi2oqzzX wOKw8W331VHOz3eBVAPMwqOzoBPgyzqsj3F6BsejDJG/RPlRlpLDPi8fN+FGEQujpY RPUdIEBmJ8+R7yWCyuM3Zao7YeK/0yoo3Xe6HRuDfFzJRPeTrZ6PyzbWvlpmLYPNBo 5JPIcSXde/ulnNMlQNT/zuvMsY2KX8Zk3gD+7EJiXCuNClyVjWBh1b45bnmyBhJ5L2 ekwGZsaVubufQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36C281201E1; Sun, 11 Oct 2020 18:23:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87362kfsf5.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2020 21:56:14 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/11 14:29:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257422 Archived-At: > Could you try to make proced work with a variable pitch header-line? I > tried and failed (bug#1779). Done. The right-alignment is still fairly ugly, of course. Stefan