From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: decision on moving core packages to ELPA; also move to obsolete? Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86a6ugnopl.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83im94b17m.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1721"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 15 15:08:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpB0a-0000LQ-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 15:08:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpB0Z-0004tU-F3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60566) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpAxL-000262-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:26443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpAxE-0004Xa-Bj; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B4460808B0; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5B0BB80241; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1608041121; bh=/5clEHJBRBApsuyrgAcWGYWSlFJfrKj44KpxVp6LZYs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=IAwvIWR8KJDsq8vgUwO6h4NH+/knhEiXaO+HILzsilse79G8EaIdcmiPkz9OLotXn BI2iMjfiYO3jKcs88z6ujNVpomXUOiZZZkPY9Can1CqeNAt0VOEbJdOSAs4xUwirlF hkjEHE8AElZ/kjtQ9RoJ+oSHnZGPp4Tq+r7Z/9eGYgCyA9tX59Go/7l5UNu3SjK8PK YdTvPwlG/v1SA4LAbA21pxRpKTqd92VmK13crK1vskUlizGzBqj1QtwQh0RVTkXXZd 4HhdfU4h8rvb6oBKZB0qXVWws2zzkkCEgPi713x1vVipilBsfRQwj+Q4hyWKmtG2Pk PzJdUtIe6IJjw== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-136-52.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.136.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 213F9120388; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 09:05:21 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:06:35 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260860 Archived-At: >> IOW the difficulty is not a question of implementing it but of deciding >> of the resulting tradeoffs (mostly around whether or not building from >> emacs.git should fetch the extra bundled GNU ELPA packages and if so >> when and how). > AFAIR, the main difficulty that remains to be resolved is how to allow > users to update a bundled package from ELPA. I can't remember any such difficulty. `package.el` is fully equipped to deal with having to choose between various versions of packages. Stefan