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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tomas Hlavaty <tom@logand.com>
Cc: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Partial wdired (edit just filename at the point)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 09:11:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvzgyvuypk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v99kgni5.fsf@logand.com> (Tomas Hlavaty's message of "Sun, 21 Mar 2021 23:17:38 +0100")

Tomas Hlavaty [2021-03-21 23:17:38] wrote:
> On Wed 17 Mar 2021 at 22:10, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>> +  (add-hook 'before-change-functions 'wdired--preprocess-line nil t)
>>   Please use #' rather than ' to quote functions (I know the rest of the
>>   code here doesn't (yet), but we should move towards more systematic
>>   use of #' so as to better catch obsolete functions and other issues).  ]
> That is a strange advice.  I would expect #' to remove the indirection
> via symbol with consequence, that redefining the named function would
> not be reflected in the original #' value.
> What is the difference between #' and ' in emacs lisp?
> Is it different from Common Lisp?

Yes, it's indeed different from Common Lisp: it doesn't have the same
effect as `symbol-function`.

In ELisp, when quoting a symbol, #' only tells Emacs that the intention
is to refer to the function by that name more than the symbol itself,
but semantically, it's almost identical to ' and almost always just
returns the symbol.  The "almost" is for the exception of references to
lexically scoped functions (where #' works like in Common Lisp).

Lexically-scoped functions occur most directly via `cl-flet` and
`cl-labels`, but they can also occur more indirectly via things like
`cl-defmethod` (where `cl-call-next-method` is lexically scoped) or
`named-let` (which rely on `cl-flet` or `cl-labels` internally).


        Stefan




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-22 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16 18:23 Partial wdired (edit just filename at the point) Arthur Miller
2021-03-17  1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-17  2:21   ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-17  2:34     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-17 13:58       ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-17 14:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-17 19:56           ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-17 22:40             ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-18  2:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-18 10:26                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-18 10:32                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-03-18 11:00                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-18 11:11                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-03-18 11:46                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-23 23:32                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-03-18 14:21                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-19 11:15                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-19 16:18                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-19 20:40                         ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-03-19 21:58                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-20 11:23                             ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-03-21 22:17                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-03-22  8:12                   ` tomas
2021-03-22 12:44                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-03-22 14:50                       ` tomas
2021-03-22 13:11                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-03-22 20:08                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-03-22 20:28                       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-03-22 21:00                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:52                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-03-22 22:16                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 22:39                             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-03-22 23:27                           ` Andreas Schwab

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