From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cc-mode fontification feels random Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:28 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83im2lbqmv.fsf@gnu.org> <179f6e4fa40.2816.cc5b3318d7e9908e2c46732289705cb0@dancol.org> <83fsxpbpn9.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0n09tkp.fsf@gnu.org> <837dj09p0e.fsf@gnu.org> <20210611232535.b4dyu3a2yxvdixys@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19938"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ergus , Eli Zaretskii , dancol@dancol.org, acm@muc.de, rudalics@gmx.at, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Theodor Thornhill Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 15:41:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ls3t2-00054I-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:41:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58874 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls3t1-0001nQ-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls3sN-0000lw-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:41954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ls3sI-0006sB-Kj; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8BD16806F0; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 231F980771; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1623505230; bh=54n+VFnZmpULSLbKYnRIIBiEqPcvzxeT31kv5E/rOrw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=dKYpblarwDfQSlNPn/9juZH99Vug/VCa4p+PoaITCcWmTV8RM2uQkxckRxmwsfsZ6 qNq/ZsZzhWMuvM8FtMm86lbX7Gt79NH6oabhs/+yHlFlf9XJrEHJTP1eHHeEYgY8M7 6ro4O+UP2kW71ZJrQL+Oea75YzHSewejQMnlA85QzYXTK8s3fJfWzHfaXbO0j1NO1v duRuPstCzYXD8au2ReuLdjr0K/ap0U1Qlnkn4DGRNCoAt+eDoh6K8CLKMBv5evq7Nt mf9NhwD6uT64SnVBIIrXVA/JnZqAZusrHcDVfbRAJ2GsCd06dWCMlsRcpfKms3M6BF v6fKcDmxHoPEQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-196-163-239.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.163.239]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85E881201B3; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 09:40:29 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Theodor Thornhill's message of "Sat, 12 Jun 2021 07:20:00 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270757 Archived-At: > @Stefan - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by troublesome for > elisp hackers. These grammars have a lisp-like dsl, and is pretty > usable through C-M-x and defvars, see: > https://github.com/emacs-csharp/csharp-mode/blob/master/csharp-tree-sitter.el#L44. AFAIK the grammar itself is still written in Javascript. > IME experience it's not the same as normal elisp hacking, but it's good > enough. That's only an opinion though. The disadvantages I see for ELisp hackers are just technical hurdles that can be overcome with extra tooling. I'm not particularly worried about them, indeed. > These 410 lines covers way more than what CC Mode is atm. It would be > *great* to move the tree sitter part to emacs. Agreed. Maybe a first step would be to get copyright assignments and include the tree sitter module in GNU ELPA? Stefan