From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83r1a4yfpt.fsf@gnu.org> <8335mky4rl.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0fvh1zp.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30027"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, xenodasein@tutanota.de To: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 23 17:37:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0R5w-0007Z1-C5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:37:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60264 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0R5u-00053q-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:37:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0R5J-0004GP-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53438) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0R5H-0003vZ-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:52 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7B8FC4428AB; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 387F14428A4; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:49 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1640277409; bh=Xs20LDYDK/eFGmzEP5KAqCemABCwyYkFvvRAAv3j4lc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=f/A9NZwi9jVXPXdwZj6D2M4KSRJaXfDXeKQJ5+HinVvfYXAe0RsgW+emfYV9H6RdM jJEZ/8i3AYDQ6jriRaGC28wim/5LCM/RHygFodgCS1YSeEPyyhZMXU6CMfY0zMaKUJ VG+JJSothQQuqtDD8ng6cEfM3CrYt1L2C6J8RKZOWvm+4OTeVA6QY6xklCgOXUvOh0 T5r8JrKAoU/9xdgJOMaQxjoW1BrsZIgeBErxjsoD4FPzsLnBF0dp3vZkB8o+ZXFBBj tIEdZfze2c8nhlaoQ6dvezE/slPrxD1xnmOrnKQDxI5BrfSJGfKPCPBIuG3yoj6rog hmVd2mS+D2KUw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E88E01201C6; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:36:48 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (xenodasein's message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:48:32 +0100 (CET)") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282978 Archived-At: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." [2021-12-23 14:48:32] wr= ote: > Dec 23, 2021, 16:42 by luangruo@yahoo.com: >> No. If that happens in GCC, then it is a bug. > Yes, that's the point.=A0 It is a lot more likely to happen as > the focus is on new standard. That's not my experience. It's rather than other way around: features of the new standard are more likely to have bugs because they've not been tested for as many years. Stefan