From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - design Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsl5a51r.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27418"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Will Mengarini , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 19 19:54:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nrkM5-0006um-Uw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 19:54:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43344 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrkM4-0006E5-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:54:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrk5U-0006tN-1k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:34261) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nrk5Q-0000uW-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:22 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB89D807F8; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3F47580723; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1652981836; bh=5nwgLCgl32ML0uVFoOPksRRf7RjKCSC+cSGcLvXNmbk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TCZNe9QNRf+wISZl43zR00PXx6cte3Ew2m+hrbMbecEBfc5bR6W9KAP/69eliN5g8 S9rx9VCHKB/4vny1eSGCb3lrQoFDDjDTOUhbg7+Z7bvQk23KAEQW2tnph1nt2dBKBs JvcQdFtmNBeTzk6MRP/WU/oM2ncSDB3UEMXQVw5b+cEgUbhvj7z5eZESpoPa1Oa4qB quDDTgZfmyOKfe/zv5bkVdxRCbtn+95bCs2kwkGEBkiHjRVyvh8ZWzA0sEUGH2YzWk vEtxFJbHB997y/LsZx9IMlqsfbIS/krCl1JkqHjPfMJ8tuobZb4zDMPjft6CvSh3uM M0MePOuDE0ZaQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 089C21208BF; Thu, 19 May 2022 13:37:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87fsl5a51r.fsf@gmail.com> (Timothy's message of "Thu, 19 May 2022 23:54:52 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289983 Archived-At: > I=E2=80=99m not sure what=E2=80=99s best here. Nationality feels like the= right thing to me, but > as you say some people could reasonably check two or even three of them. > However, I=E2=80=99d consider a list of 237 checkboxes to be pretty bad (= as opposed to > the current single-select dropdown menu). Would it be unreasonable to ask= for a > primary nationality, if that works for 99% of people that may be good eno= ugh > overall for us. To be honest, I have no idea why we'd care about nationality. I can see why we'd care about where our users reside (e.g. country of residence), or maybe which is their mother's tongue, or the language they speak most comfortably, but nationality? only as a proxy for some of those. Stefan