From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:28:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19454"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Rob Browning , david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 02 19:29:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1of2mB-0004iE-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 19:29:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52198 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of2mA-0003I0-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:29:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of2l4-0001rg-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:28:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:14779) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1of2l2-0005hv-QY; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 13:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 64D8B80723; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0628E8025C; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:28:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1664731682; bh=fRDwAxm7S1TByI2WzkwNCd0Ddo+luqtm0Gb/sYx9Gzk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=Nav1te3Zk3MNQWMqljh7PzF7qo+SYjyEfHRXusk1vlF3/lpzTKZELfXoQuZZBmwWZ 9+U0IZJGSbwulsB/ZXkHhphrSbBVZVKOJp/120PS+yqQEt5N2VUyRaclaiG7Ez7lhS dYycfuWowFqA9XYJFxL9o1KquljMtBYc/cSac3WQsUBzRuz5WpaBiXI1lOJbnIdHbU 092xMY5FscStYCaK1YyUy2SL+7haVZ3JqRU10ULj6z42HbKL1GdOhSrZYrCIySf3VG Ktn4MIYHYSavZYMWo8J8El6UA8mVxT/03yfl1JUUG3gTsuRcL2EjdT9OBEOiPyoA2q ZyyhaMkYbD0Fw== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD8191204BB; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 13:28:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 Oct 2022 19:17:27 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296654 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-10-02 19:17:27] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> But I think I agree with Rob that it makes a lot of sense in the context >> of Debian to eagerly native-compile the packages when they're installed >> via APT. > I've always assumed that that's what distributions like Debian would > do. Which means that there should be an easy way to switch JIT off, but > I've just forgotten to add it. Switching it off means that the native compilation is never auto-triggered, so it's probably not quite what you meant :-) Stefan