From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: proposal: obsolete-var-funcs.el or compatibility-var-funcs.el Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878rljzzeu.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87sfjrwu0c.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35939"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 22:06:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oj4T3-00096F-D8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 22:06:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48258 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj4T1-0003Eh-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34228) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj4Ra-0002Ir-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:37791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oj4RM-000614-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 79033100142; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DE4FB100084; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:20 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1665691460; bh=AymHBL3oCKimN4HzXhbfDLDH+7sXWY8Dk4ktAPV05qk=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=XNpLT35j20ktmB1Xit7VCvhDORU0k7Z017V4lppUa4mQQqT4J3yyAJNsc4qZj6jE3 5FiK1xNVlgZgzIXHPKk7UnHzN7bGIT5WkIDRt/mOQEQ/y9P/rxLfNaH150VnwQDm/f JWNBbUKt+9tdvXMLtBMHZoSd/Rbb8gnh6TQcqUu6N5Dq4tTyBiXqfHbfIApFHiofyz w8GIdG1zEHsQyBkHFsbDU9skrcZcdjBAYatDBpNr2nnMUFSOKTGeRbIYVkXY7OmWdg 3LKI1cmprbYV4ruLRBbLt1Red9rGsUwXCcyRB6WAo98ZG9I6hRgXCv1CKfdysLARKz nmqfcH+ryjCJw== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CF4D7120F15; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:04:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sfjrwu0c.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:47:15 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297693 Archived-At: > Yeah, I meant just in general, in the past, these eliminating variables > has been a source of annoyance, that is why I propose to move it to a > lisp file where user, who was that problem could decide what to do with > them. Benefit, the obsolete code is removed from the main files, and > dwells in one file, that might help users with old code. That only works for some small fraction of the things we obsolete and then remove. Stefan