From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-29 acd462b0306: ; Improve the use-package manual Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <167059642832.4265.15913417645926264658@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20221209143348.961DEC0E4CA@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <83k02zwd0z.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu22v4rx.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5676"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org, johnw@newartisans.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 11 15:24:52 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4NG8-0001L4-0Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:24:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4NFb-00019h-Ed; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4NFZ-00019W-Aa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4NFX-0005HT-Lw; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0252280571; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:13 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1827080223; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:11 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1670768651; bh=4ie6okLI0lS5HPaWosFGuy2RTSwmD6ToUTq0Ux1QxKU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=phIXp0wOeWUB4sCmYowcTGgoOWvrCvSWbSBMmseK+WIDWOZK4abnoVoTtAzFD2L+J u3WyqczRp4hITH3UykZTCLdsYkLo4KSlay+N3QWP3yRLL+GoPkphnXTYTQjBy88vEE 5k2EsGiysqivS4Xn3i9l8zd/H+71Zt86yrwR9IE2MnXNgFg/4ZAewcxmO0tUqY2YjM 3SWvbSOoOxDmARp8U1VxTusbQkY7c94KQ5/hNG+3bebyCoIM9JBJa5f7xIIn9Ypilk 67MrwFlgJHXKVLrTfkTf8SwcEygG9c6ywSdim1X9JEkETYl+qoaCW0f3vChfrX7mAR zYXlzOoiWUSQQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.193.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCE1B1201BE; Sun, 11 Dec 2022 09:24:10 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83tu22v4rx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 11 Dec 2022 08:22:10 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:301151 Archived-At: >> >> I think we can drop either the window-system example or the system-type >> >> example. But I don't know which one is more useful. >> > >> > The one where there are two values, not one, I guess? >> >> The examples we have are: >> >> :if (eq system-type 'gnu/linux) >> >> and >> >> :if (memq window-system '(ns x)) >> >> Do you mean that the `window-system' one is the more useful one? > > Yes, because the other one is just a special case. OTOH testing `window-system` in the init file is not a good idea. It will fail to do what is expected when used in `early-init.el`, and similarly when used with the daemon. So we probably shouldn't promote the practice in our examples. Stefan