From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enriched-mode and switching major modes. Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:49:28 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200409042358.i84Nwjt19152@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87llfn5ihw.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095709876 4258 80.91.229.6 (20 Sep 2004 19:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Oliver Scholz , bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 20 21:51:00 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9UBf-00042Q-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:51:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9UHZ-00075m-7Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:57:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9UHP-00075S-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9UHN-000754-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:56:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9UHN-00074u-Ep for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:56:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9UAL-0000L9-Qd; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6D0B3027E; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C121B8CA23; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:18:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=0, requis 5) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27342 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27342 >> With something like WhyzzyTeX I get to edit while seeing (rather >> than "looking at") the surface expression. > I find that this does not work for most creative work (except I'm not sure what "this" refers to, but I completely agree: I don't want to use the same font while editing and while printing (I typically like my screen fonts to be sans-serif, while I usually want to print with something like computer-modern or times-roman). > That's what preview-latex > provides me with: terminal fonts where I am interested in the text, > antialiased WYSIWYG where I am interested in more complex compositions > like math formulas, graphs and similar stuff, where the input > representation is so far from the represented content that thinking > about the content without visual translation becomes difficult. Yes, it's also a very interested point in the design space. I don't think WhyzzyTeX and preview-latex should be considered as necessarily opposed designs. Stefan