From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scrollbar bug on OS X Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:26:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7ca1709813602da58a139cee58fb4c63@gmail.com> <3b9c4e2f33d37fed55f640dcafbc8d65@gmail.com> <87is31i8jq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <0ba853825b580f74347416c2c0b4a169@gmail.com> <87vf70ausz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <5b72982df8c370d3a58358de397046c8@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112901955 30977 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 19:25:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 21:25:51 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJccj-0004IG-0d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:25:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcC4-0004am-Mt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcBq-0004ZB-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:57:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcBj-0004WL-9J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:57:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJcBj-0004W4-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:57:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJcf9-0007ew-UX; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8A934002B; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD314AC22B; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 61E15E6C21; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 07 Apr 2005 14:27:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-4.832, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, AWL 0.07, BAYES_00 -4.90) X-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35706 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35706 > PS: The only problem is that those toolkits have the idiotic idea to > enforce that the bottom of the thumb cannot go further than the > bottom. And they enforce it by hiding the events corresponding to > "user moves the mouse yet-further-down". > I can talk with the GTK developers about this. And also with the > LessTif developers. Should I do that? Feel free to try, but I don't have much hope: - The LessTif people are probably bound by compatibility. - The Gtk people are usually bound by dogmatism. Stefan